Yarrabliba and Flagstone could begin by the end of 2011.
This link was sent to me from one of the locals around here who is part of a group that keeps an eye on the goings on in the community as far as government at all levels and their decisions effects on lifestyle, environment and amenity, I thought you might be interested.
The link above gets you to the article in the local paper and from it you can get all the information as far as it is known.
It seems that Logan council has not delivered the goods quickly enough for a money hungry State Government who gifted them a huge portion of Beaudesert in the amalgamations and assumed that the two estates would be given the green light, in return.
Logan has dropped the ball, they weren't going to allow these major development areas to compete with one in the old Logan (Park Ridge MDA) and hadn't planned to get them going before it was well established, if not finished.
People who have invested millions in the Park Ridge area will be counting their return going backwards about now, Knowing how the other developers move once the projects are started.
I guess the work is just too hard over at Springfield, and easier country is being looked at for that developer.
Bligh is trying to sell the idea with one of the developers own lines calling the housing estates "masterplanned communities" which is demonstrative of the relationship between the Labor government and the developers.
Communities are not for sale through developers, communities are made up of people, when will governments realise that?
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And Ripley Valley in the Ipswich
area Uno. Unlike Flagstone and
Yarrabilba, there are quite a
few `constitutional` question
marks hanging over the redev-
elopment of Ripley, because
to my knowledge, part or all
of the area in Ripley that is
earmarked to be a satelite city
is CROWN LAND. I dont think this
government gives a damn about up-
holding the Westminster constitu-
tion. The ULDA is a statutory
body, according to the constitu-
tion it can legally only develop
freehold land, that is my under-
standing. As far as Yarrabilba &
Flagstone are concerned it isn`t
much of a choice. An incompetent
council or a power mad statutory
body which only care about look-
ing after the developers. Foppin
hell, what more can you say?
I agree, there has been no secret that Yarrabilba is the next big project for one Developer and that developer has, by way of the parent company, made substantial contributions to electoral campaigns. Their marketing is so slick so seemless and so lifestyle driven that it is easy for people to get sucked into using their terminology. It's usual when you're hearing very clever marketing to begin to use the jingoism yourself, as the government has done.
What amazes me is that Logan were saying that Yarrabilba wouldn't get a start before 2026 If I recall correctly, yet they now claim to have completed structure plans for the area, (and also for Flagstone)and we still wait on many of the details for Park Ridge MDA, strange stuff.
You can't possibly believe that the local CEO of Delfin was at the Chamber of commerce (no not the jimboomba version) telling members and guests that they would be starting Yarrabilba before 2012, and also getting that in some of the local papers, before the State Government announcement, so once again it seems that everyone knows except the community. So much for masterplanned communities!
Tim, under the Act, one of the powers given to the ULDA is to be able to convert Crown Land , and since the crown doesn't appear at all on titles anymore, it's no surprise, into limited freehold (for certain purposes; one being affordable housing)
As you know the Ripley development will be vast and will be more that the Township that yarrabilba will be (unless the area south of Plunkett rd. to the river is mysteriously also gazetted into the investigation area for urban footprint, in the future, and that won't be a surprise either)
On the TV last evening the government was said to have already palnned for new infrastructure and services like Hospitals in each of the areas, my standing question to the developers at Yarrabilba has been to point out on the plan the land designated for such a hospital, and up to now I have only recieved the answer that medical centres will be at the 4 major business precincts.
A clinic is not a hospital.
That is what i thought but was
not totally positive about
Vince. I mean to say, the
government has given the
ULDA the power to convert
crown land to some form of
freehold title, but where
in the original constitution
does it state that the gov
can do that? It`s not a ques-
tion of the result, where we
now know the ULDA has now got
the power to do that, but the
big question mark is by what
legislative means did the gov
tweak the constitution, which
i would alledge was unlawful
according to the constitution
represented by the High Court
of Australia, to empower the
ULDA is this manner. There`s
one for the Courier Mail to
look in to. News Ltd journos
have been deliberately ignor-
ing the elephant in the room
on this one since day dot. The
2001 New Constitution of Qld
is a fraudulent document in
my humble honest opinion.
What i was really trying to
say in my last comment is
this - the ULDA having the
power to convert crown land
to freehold is not unconsti-
tutional. That doesn`t mean
that any government, Labor
or the Nationals, ever had
the right to manipulate the
constitution (illegally) to
facilitate the passing of
legislation (such as the
creation of the ULDA) to
devise legislation which
is `technically` legal.
No, I agree, the manipulations of the constitution by means of an act of State Parliament which does not have the safeguard of a senate like body, is a sham and a dictatorial situation. Effectively the State government has recreated the constitution by clever and clandestine changes to wording throughout its term so that the people do ot ned (or get to )have a say in that the changes happen or that the changes to the constitution will happen too.
To the effect the ULDA can remove the rights of The Crown over public land by deeming it useful for a certain purpose, most usually those purposes have been for roads, infrastructure coridors or flood mitigation and now we see a very ambiguous one in , "affordable housing"
Like it or not, it can happen now, and although the term is applied, there will be no real affordable housing within any of the developments, just more basic housing that may cost around the lower end of the new home market price.
If there is any way that a court challenge to the legislation and changes to the act that were effected to allow such powers to remove title of land, it probably won't happen until the ULDA acts againt a private holding, and that might not be too far away.
What is screwing my mind is that the ULDA announce the takeover fo these areas, and within a day beattie is back declaring he has gone through the two year period within which a former minister cannot take up conflicting private sector positions. What's your best guess at where he ends up?
Unfortunately both State and Local Govs are selling us out. There is no consideration for our lifestyle or our input.
It seems that Council is blinded by 'fame' and dollars - they are not doing the job they were elected to do - represent us the people.
We definitely need a change of all levels of Government but the choices are limited. Personally, judging the candidates presenting I have no faith in the LNP either.
While developers have funds, and copious supplies of funds at that, and managers who are just there to liase with government bodies, who wine and dine staff at either councils or gorernment, and do the same for ministers or councilors, we are never going to stand a chance against unbridaled growth which is more about making developers rich and funding the interest payments on government borrowings.
The real question is how does this government expect us to believe that the growth explosion is not driven by them to produce demand for the products that the developers will create?
Unfortunately this is not about having a local leader, taking the reins at council, this is about a Party system that is out of control and where elected representatives are so full of themselves that they actually believe they are some kind of celebrety, and that they are there to rule the voters instead of serve them.
If people want governments that will try harder, they need to change them at every election, that is the only way governments will do what we need them to do.
Being voted out every other term will get rid of career politicians, it will get rid of developers pets, it will get rid of huge superannuation bills funded by us and it will get rid of the mentality that they don't have to perform until a few weeks from the next election.
When elected representatives serve the Party first, and the electorate last, the community suffers, we are seeing that first hand in Logan, where independents seem to be getting on with the job and well and truely serving the community and Party hacks are more concerned with strategy, revenge, and ladder climbing.
As has been said before, Council in Logan is a full time job for councillors, or rather should be, and if we don't have a full time councillor we are not gewtting value for our rating dollar, and lets face it for the work they do councillors are getting a pretty tidy package when you add office, phone, car etc to their salary they're effectively on around 200k plus a year.
I agree with Anon 5:45. Unfortunately what should be a full time job representing the people is not. Some representatives are so busy with their private lives or campaigning that they spend very little time doing their elected job.
Div 4 and Div 11 certainly are not getting value for money. No doubt other divisions are suffering the same fate.
With the impending rate rises to be announced at the end of June beginning of July there is still no promise of improved services - so what will we be paying for? The wage increases?
I would just like to see crs put in the time they are paid for - perhaps they need to keep log books or clock in and out. So easy to pretend to be attending to constituents while having morning teas in the city.
That developers could be in bed with Labor I think is shown by this from NSW "The state government is rushing to prepare laws to create a development authority with sweeping powers to compulsorily acquire and rezone privately owned land for resale to developers" and the comments of Stephen Albin, the chief executive of the Urban Development Institute who is saying landowners should receive some compensation for increased value from rezoning but should not receive it all as ''Developers are taking the risk … these landowners are not taking risk. Government has decided for the good of the city, for the good of the community, development must occur.”
In other words someone else s asset is there to make the developers rich and finance the developers project all the while ignoring that the land owner is not a voluntary party to the deal to begin with.
If Stephen Albin feels he can make such comments which say people will lose their house and land and be expected to finance someone else’s deal, I believe it shows how secure he is in getting his own way and how much the developers, in NSW at least, are the real power behind Labor. Even though I'm a union member I am openly saying that these things shows me that the Australian Labor Party is openly abandoning its traditional voting base, I think it’s time for that voting base to return the favour.
And they should do it quickly lest they lose their house to finance someone else’s deal.
Hi there. Your posts make interesting reading. At risk of breaching blog etiquette by promoting an event (but it is a free, community event, and we want as many community questions and issues raised as possible), it would be great to have your perspectives raised at the Our Future, Your Say: Can Logan take the load? forum on Monday, 13 September starting at 6.30pm. It's at the Griffith University Logan campus auditorium at Meadowbrook. You can find more information on the Brisbane Institute website (www.brisinst.org.au).
Daniel Boon said ...
Electing a new government won't work as developers hedge their bets by backing / financially supporting both parties ... the media and voters assist the process by making and accepting it as a two horse race and not electing the Greens or an independant ...
the reality is there is no seperation, corporate government is alive and well and sucking the life-blood out wherever they can trun a profit ...
the other reality they have yet to realise is that for every action there is a reaction and they will pay one way or another ...
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